Sauna Building Class

Sauna Building Class and workshop with Rob Licht

Learn how to build saunas and gain expert knowledge from master builder Rob Licht in an intensive four-day masterclass experience

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A comprehensive sauna building class and workshop with demonstrations, lectures and some hands-on experience. We will cover many aspects of sauna building:

  • Design and layout of freestanding & electric saunas
  • Selection of the proper wood and materials
  • Principals of insulation
  • Interior finishing of wood paneling
  • Basics of the kiuas or sauna stove (emphasis on wood burning but electric is covered)
  • Safe clearances and chimney installation
  • Floor and stove-wall masonry construction
  • Mobile saunas
  • Sauna details: Benches, doors, windows and more
  • Sauna essentials: usage, customs and etiquette
  • Sauna business and culture in the US
  • Sauna construction challenges

Total Class Fee:
$975 individual
$1850 couple/family rate

A $300 non-refundable deposit (for each person) is due at registration and applied to the total class fee.

Location: 
At the Shop of Rob Licht Custom Saunas
8 Verizon Lane, Unit 1, Lansing, NY 14882

Class size will be limited to 12.

Class Schedule:
Thursday: 10AM to 5PM
Friday: 9AM to 5PM
Saturday: 9AM to 5PM
Sunday: 9AM to 1PM

Lunches will be provided every day. Throughout the intensive days we will have break-out work sessions, time to answer questions, and coffee breaks. There will be opportunities for socializing after class and the option to take sauna at the shop and by the lake. One evening, we will sauna and picnic at a local park on Cayuga Lake. Significant others are welcome to join us for this event.

Recommended prerequisite: We’re not covering basic carpentry (exterior framing), and basic metal working. If you lack these skills it is advised that you take a hands-on carpentry class. 

About the Teacher: Rob Licht has been taking sauna for 50 years and has built and designed hundreds of custom saunas. Rob readily dispenses his knowledge to students and hopes to share his enthusiasm and expert knowledge of sauna with you. 

Rob Licht grew up near Ithaca, N.Y., inspired by the bucolic landscape of the Finger Lakes region. He fell in love with sauna and Finnish culture as a teenager at a local cross-country ski center run by a Finnish family. He has a Master of Fine Arts Degree from Cornell University and has been a practicing artist and teacher for over 30 years. He taught art at Ithaca College for 12 years and has also taught adult education classes in welding, art, and design. He began combining his love of sauna, his practice as an artist, and his skills acquired from working in the building trades into a sauna building business in 1995. Today sauna building is his primary focus and he is one of the leading east coast sauna builders and sauna building educator offering a plethora of information to his clients, and now students, from around the world.

Terms & Info: A $300 non refundable deposit is due at registration payable paypal/venmo and applied to total class fee. Your balance is due (via mailed check) at least 45 days before class in order to attend. We realize that check writing may be a thing of the past, so are other options via paypal but ask that you cover the 3% paypal fee. We will also accept cash for the balance when you arrive, just let us know if you are planning on that so we can plan for your attendance.  In the event the class is under enrolled you will be informed, and your deposit of $300 will be refunded. In the case the class is over enrolled (12+) we will put you on a waitlist and we will let you know asap if you can attend. Because of the overwhelming popularity of the class, there is often a waitlist, so if you do need to cancel please keep that in mind so we have time to fulfill your spot. Class size will be limited to 12. Class attendees will have the opportunity to buy our sauna building plans at 50% off.

About the Shop: 3000 sq ft with 16 ft ceilings and two large overhead doors and outdoor spaces to ensure good air quality.

Lunch is included: Lunches will be delivered to the shop. We will accommodate basic dietary restrictions with options. Coffee, Tea and snacks will also be available throughout the days of the class. 

Sauna etiquette: We allow about 4 people at a time in the sauna. Bathing suits are required; please bring 2 towels (free from perfumed detergents) to sit on in the sauna. Towels will also be provided everyday. Everyone will get a chance to sauna most days after class.

WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING…

“This was the best weekend. I learned so much and left feeling full of inspiration and conviction. We can do this y’all- the revolution is happening! I am so grateful to you, Rob and Scarlet, for working so hard to put together such a clear and digestible roadmap for all of us. And I am so grateful for having four days with the loveliest people to talk sauna. What a dream.”  —Erin, NC

“What an amazing weekend of sauna immersion. It was something special to be in an intimate group of like-minded folk focused on something that brings us such joy. Rob and Scarlet so well prepared and so packed with knowledge and hands-on experience! I was so impressed with the smooth and thoughtful delivery of information. Possibly the biggest take away I got was that there are many right and not so right ways to do things, in the end sauna building is an art as much as it is a science, which is why my sauna is so authentic in the experience.”  —Mark, MA

Rob and Scarlet are the real deal! I’m a professional carpenter and builder. I bought and adapted Rob’s mobile sauna plans, and I also did a consult with him. Two years later, and I’ve just had the pleasure of spending 4 days in the shop with Rob, Scarlet, and about a dozen other students, drinking from the firehose of knowledge and experience. They make a great team, both as builders and educators, and they’re just great people to be around. I couldn’t be more pleased and impressed with the experience, and I’m eager to get back to building saunas back on the west coast with my business, Sauna Väki. —Josiah, OR

Rolling out the mobiles

Mobile Sauna traveling to the lake for a cold plunge
Traveling with one of our mobile saunas to the lake and delivering to new owners.

We have been building mobile saunas for the past ten years! And because of their growing popularity and versatility, they now make up most of our business. Each unit is still handcrafted with many layers of details. The owners each get a unique product tailored to their specifications. It’s also an easy way to avoid zoning and permitting restrictions and the hassles of a site-built project. Investing in your dream sauna makes more sense if you know you can take it with you!

We hear from our customers all the time that their friends, family, and neighbors are as excited as they are to have a sauna! 

Inside the hot room our mobile saunas looking out through the dressing room to the lake.
Mobile wood-fired sauna, on a trailer.

For many people, owning a sauna feels like a bare necessity during the winter months!

Backyard mobile sauna steps away from home surrounded by dramatic rocks and fire pit patio perfect for entertaining.
This recent sauna build is just steps from the owner’s historic, New England homestead. Our saunas are designed to blend in with the home and environment. The classic details of this historic house are elegant rustic with dramatic rock outcroppings and a fire pit, making for a perfect gathering spot.
Mobile sauna parked at an overlook
Our wood-fired mobile saunas travel well and can be parked in beautiful places.
Ready for a cold plunge
Scarlet by the lake ready for a cold plunge

Having a sauna at home is a low maintenance life upgrade.

Finnish Blue Sauna 5'x8' size
Our 5’x8′ mobile sauna parked in town with 100 gal. cold plunge tank.
interior mobile sauna by Rob Licht Custom Saunas with custom sauna stove
Interior of our larger mobile sauna. With a large pile of rocks, our saunas can get as hot as you like.
We aim for 212° F (100° C)
We build handcrafted wood-fired and electric mobile saunas in Ithaca, NY and can be delivered in the US.
We build many mobile saunas in our shop in Ithaca, NY. Working in our 3000 sq. ft. shop is more efficient than building on-site.
We build mobile saunas. Here we have 2 models of wood-fired mobile saunas built with locally sourced and non-toxic materials. These mobile saunas are built with the same attention as any freestanding sauna.
Two sizes of mobile Saunas on display at our shop in Ithaca, NY

We offer building plans for DIY sauna builders or your local builder for one-time usage only. Thanks to our valued sauna plan customers, and the growing popularity of DIY sauna building, we have taken the opportunity to launch our new & improved mobile sauna building plans! Our sauna plans are fifty plus pages and include detailed notes, drawings, photos, and material lists for a wood-fired, 5’x8’/6.5’x10′ build. If you are thinking about purchasing our plans or building a sauna, we offer you an opportunity to build your own sauna using construction plans. Rob Licht has developed the best practices of sauna building with thirty plus years of experience.

Cedar Woes

Large Commercial Sauna by Silver Lake with STK Western Red Cedar for interior walls and Clear for benches

When we think of sauna, we generally think of a wood-lined room heated by an electric or wood-fired kiuas (contrary to my last post was the discovery of an old, smooth, plastered sauna.) The wood is integral to the experience—for the aesthetics of its look, pleasant smell, and ability to take the humidity and temperature extremes. But all wood is not alike, and the question of what kind of wood to use always arises. The answer to that question, like everything else these days, is changing.

Typically in the US, especially in the generic gym and hotel saunas and home kit saunas, Western Red Cedar is used. As its name implies, it is from the western US and Canada. All lumber is graded, and each board is stamped as it runs through the mill. The grade indicates species, appearance, mill, and strength of the wood. The letters A-D are modified by Select, Clear Select, and Select Tight Knots (STK). For cedar saunas, it will be either a Clear Select grade or STK, the latter being almost half the price of the former.

The grain might be vertical (VG), indicating the log was quarter sawn, or mixed (MG) indication the log was plain sawn. Cedar is also produced mainly for exterior siding applications and comes with a textured surface on one side that, unlike the sawing pattern on rough sawn lumber, is applied in the mill after sawing. This rough surface is considered the good side to which the grade applies. A big frustration with cedar is that I want the smooth side facing out and, since the board is graded to the rough side, there is no guarantee that the smooth side has the appearance that the grade indicates.

Western Red Cedar (clear select) with many variations of color and stripes
Western Red Cedar, graded Clear Select with many variations of color.

Color in cedar varies a lot. One side might be red and the other might have annoying stripes of white wood. Clear Select Grade A boards will be better, but they come at a premium price: currently about twelve to fifteen dollars a board foot (1ft long x 1′ wide x 1″ thick, nominal dimensions). For years I have typically used Western Red STK for the walls and maybe Clear Select grade on the benches. This wood comes from either Idaho or British Columbia (BC). Standard Tight Knot is likely from managed (regenerated) forest plantations, and Clear Select is from larger old-growth trees in BC. I consider a guilt factor here (i.e., the cutting of old growth), so I veer towards STK whenever possible. (I also use Northern White Cedar frequently in freestanding saunas and our mobile saunas but that is the topic of another post.)

Cedar is praised for its stability in the heat, and because of its low density, it doesn’t get hot to the touch—an important feature in a hot room with bare flesh touching the walls and benches.

Wood is a global commodity affected by the stock markets, inflation, building trends, shipping woes, fire seasons, and the whims of political leaders who set tariffs as a way to taunt each other. You can make a career (and people do) out of studying the ebb and flow of lumber supply and prices. Add to this mix the COVID-19 pandemic, and you have a roller coaster of unpredictability. The information I gleaned from building ten or twenty years ago can no longer be relied on. Suppliers have come and gone, quality has gone down, and prices mostly go up.

The pandemic created a real change in the labor force as well. There was never a shortage of raw lumber logs, but as workers and truck drivers got sick or just quit, mills shut down, and logs piled up. The calculus used to predict building trends was skewed by everyone staying home and building decks with their pandemic relief money, and we all saw prices soar while availability of lumber—especially cedar—shrank. In the meantime, the cedar I could get has been showing up with major defects, some from the mill and some from very poor handing: fork lift stabs are so common I have to over-order for every job. I assume this is the result of experienced older workers leaving the work force and being replaced by a cohort too inexperienced to understand that the six-board bundle they just mangled cost me more than what they make in two days. Some days I feel like all I make is very expensive kindling.

Cedar graded side up (rough) with damage
Cedar, graded side up (rough) with shipping damage.

The truth is, in Finland, the source of my sauna inspiration, they don’t even have Western Red Cedar. They have softwood species similar to what we have—spruce, pine, fir (SPF)—but in general, the quality and nature of wood varies by region. Wood from northern climates grows slower, and has a denser grain.

As in Scandinavia, North American trees, in uniformly dense forests, have straighter grain from the trees reaching up toward the sun. Compare a lone wolf white oak, with its sprawling branches, to a deep forest oak that is straight and true up to the canopy.

Norway spruce is the wood choice for many Finns as are alder and aspen, which are soft hardwoods. The latter grow bigger there than our typical aspen and alder, which are rarely found at local mills. As I mentioned above, cedar has been known for its stability in the heat. But now Scandinavians have started using a thermal process that uses heat and steam to modify wood and make it more stable and rot resistant (or so the web pages claim). I suspect there is also a Scandinavian work ethic at play: working in the trades there does not carry the same stigma (a career for high school dropouts) as it does here, and attention to detail and quality are paramount. Call it the IKEA effect.

Soft hardwoods: Spruce, Aspen and Alder used for sauna interiors in Europe

Thermory and Lunawood are two brands of thermal process products available now in the US. The shipping crisis (highlighted by a boat getting stuck sideways in the Suez Canal) has calmed down, so now, the economy of having quality wood freighted in containers from the Baltics to you (via a US distributor) probably makes more sense than wasting your time perusing the aisles of a big box store (or several) to glean out a few good cedar boards from a pile of forklift stabbed firewood. I also measure the time I spend trying to hide defects as I install the wood. While I still want to source my materials locally as much as possible, we are now in a global economy, and looking abroad is certainly starting to make more sense to me. —Rob